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Isetnofret I vs. Isetnofret II
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 7:03 pm 
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Does anyone know about two above queens... they are so closed... that i couldn't really distinguish them...

the only information that i know... is that... Isetnofret I is the 2nd wife of Ramses II who also the mother of Merenptah.

Merenptah married to Isetnofret II who is his first principal wife... She was the mother of the next heir. It is believed that Isetnofret II is the daughter to Ramses II.... Obviously Merenptah's sister. But who is Isetnofret II's mother then?

Or are they the same person? I mean...


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 3:56 am 
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Most people assume that she was the daughter of Iset Nofret I, second Great Royal Wife of Ramses II and this is the theory I subscribe to. Some would say that she could still be the daughter of Nefertari but it would be unlikely that any chile of Nefertari and Ramses would be given the same name as the next most important queen after Nefertari. Others would say that she could be the daughter of another queen but this is unlikely for two reasons: i) In the first few years of his reign Nefertari and ISet Nofret I are the only queens who appeared to have bore his children.
ii) Iset Nofret II was given a place of honour beside the legs of Ramses II on the facade of the Great Temple of Abu Simbel along with the others children of Nefertari and Isetnofret I. Only the children of the first two great queens were honoured here so if Iset Nofret II was the child of a minor queen she would not appear here.
There are parallels here between Nefertari II, also on the Abu Simbel Facade, and Iset Nofret II. Even the little daughter of Bintanath, whose name we do not know for certain, apears to have been named Bintanath after her mother.


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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 7:27 am 
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IsetNofret I replaced Nefertari after her death (on 24th year of Ramses II reign)... but soon after IsetNofret was lost in record... probably on 34th year of Ramses II reign... which is weird... Her tomb was said to be never found.

I read somewhere that this is not IsetNofret I but rather the daughter of Khawemeaset (IsetNofret I's son)... weird again.

I have a very little info about IsetNofret II... What happen to her and so on... any info?


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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 8:29 am 
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Less is known about ISet Nofret 1 than Nefertari. At least we have |Nefertari's tomb. Some tantalising clues have been found a Sakara where I believe an inscription of some sort was discovered reading..........."Cubits from the tomb of Iset Nofret'. The rest of the message was lost.


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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 7:48 pm 
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Yup she was basically lost in the record... which i wonder why. wasnt she Pharaoh principal wife too... she deserved similar respect as Nefertari. I've read too that, her tomb was never found too.

I think she probably commit something in her life... as the result, most record about her was destroyed.

What Isetnofret I full name though?


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She may have been the next principal wife after Nefertari but it doesn't change the fact that Nefertari was Great Royal Wife. While she was alive ISet Nofret would have remained very much in the background. Notice on the facade of Abu Simbel. Her daughters, who rank higher than their mother, appear by Ramses leg but not Iset Nofret. Only Nefertari appears here.


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