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i have a question fromt he movie the mummy returns.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:37 pm 
i was aways wondering,you know that part when evi has that vision of anak-su-namun and nefertiti fighting with spears and axes and golden daggers or jaggers (whatever they call them) did they use to do that in ancient egypt? i mean like women catfights or um like karate just with women? please help!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:28 pm 
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Not to my knowledge. I know of no indications that woman were trained in the art of war or fighting. Please keep in mind that this is an action film, with many historic inaccuarcies. I can point out more innaccuracies with these movies than historical accuarcies. The producers/director took much liberty in the making of the movie.


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Women warriors of Ancient Egypt
PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:23 am 
Anaksunamun2, Neb-Ma'at is right about the movie being an action movie with many historical innaccuracies.

In all of Egypt's history there are only 4 women that have claims to being in a warlike setting. They all belong to the 18th Dynasty too.

Pharaoh Ahmosis the first Pharaoh of the 18th Dynasty whose father Seqenenre Ta'o II and elder brother Kamose died fighting the Hyksos credits his mother Queen Atthotpe, as leading the fight against the Hyksos after the deaths of his father and brother. Until he, Ahmosis was old enough to take on the fight. This is most likely the only verifiable record where a woman fought in Ancient Egypt and she doesn't make it herself, her son does.

Hatshepsut makes several claims of having her amries defeating enemies of Egypt. However there is no proof that she actually lead the army in these. More likely the younger Thutmosis III lead those armies while Hatshepsut was the senior Co-regent.

Queen Tiye is despicted as the Sphinx trampling Egypt's enemies. However since she had a husband whose reign is known for it's mostly peaceful status it is unlikely that she actually trampled any enemies.

Nefertiti is also shown as triumphing over Egypt's enemies. Again it isn't real likely that she led armies do actually triumph over them.

These references of Hatshepsut, Tiye, and Nefertiti in relation to defeating Egypt's enemies are most likely an attempt to cast them in the same light as Queen Atthotep who according to her son did. These are the only references i know of where Egyptian women claimed any war experiences and historically they aren't real provable as happening.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 12:01 pm 
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I was going to say, the only depictions I have seen were of Hatshepsut (although dressed as a male pharaoh) and Nefertiti smiting enemeies, but as Guest 2 mentioned, these are most likely only symbolic of power and not actual events.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 8:54 pm 
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Wow... That stuff about Atthopte is so amazingly cool! All I know about her is what was mentioned in this thread, but I already love her.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:52 am 
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You should read Pauline Gedge's Lord of the Two Lands trilogy, it is about Ahhotep and her family and it's a very good novel and historically accurate as far as I know.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 1:56 pm 
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The Mummy and The Mummy Returns....were actually kinda good...even though it was horribly inaccurate wtih the historical context...they were pretty good movie wise...and had some funny parts...


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