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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:47 pm 
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Hi,
I came accross a vidio on Internet that says the following has been stated in (some of) Egyptian ancient scripts or monuments:

1) Horus was "born" on december 25th.
Was this written in some ancient Egyptian text?

2) Horus was born of the virgin Isis. Was that written somewhere?

3) His birth was accompanied by the East star, which was followed by three kings to find him as savior. Was that written somewhere?

4)Was Horus a teacher at the age of 12?

5) Did Horus have 12 disciples?

6) Did Horus performed the miricles like walking over water and healing the sick people at least somewhere in ancient scripts?

7) Was Horus also known (among other names) under the name: the lamb of God?

8) And finally, was he crusified and resurrected after 3 days or not?

Actually I am asking this: was some of the above WRITTEN somewhere in Egypt ancient texts or not?

Thanks a lot if you have some precise info!


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:09 pm 
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Hi , i am not shure for the others , but i can say that from the mith for Osiris:
Horus was a child of Osiris and Isis indeed , but the whay that he was made, although that there is a magic too, is typical for making little new people :) i mean Isis probably wasn't virgin in egyptian mythology.
However im shure, that there is a strong relationship between ancient egyptian religion and all religions coming from Moses, if that is what are you after.
I can not absten my self , so exuse my stupid advise , but ... forget the tv , movies and so on , information there is aways represent only in one point of view , the problems very reary are observed from all sides , therefor most of the TV productions are not good approach for learning something.
You can understand best, what are you asking for here:
http://www.amazon.com/Moses-Egyptian-Me ... t_edpp_url


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:31 am 
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According to some accounts Osiris was murgered and cut up then Isis reassembled him apart from his penis which was eaten by a fish. She managed to renimate him long enough to get pregnant (how, after the fish?) but as Horus said presumably before the murder they were a normal married couple.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:55 am 
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Tnees , according version vritten from Plutarh the falos has been remade from clay.:)


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:01 pm 
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I've also heard that Horus was born on December 25th, but it was said during my high school religion lessons, so not from egyptological source (although the teacher - or rather priest - was really well educated). And I don't remember the myths so good to be sure myself :?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:20 pm 
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Ancient Egyptians celebrated the birth of Horus on Dec. 21.
Although we celebrate the birth of Jesus on Dec. 25, His actual birth date is unknown, but more than likely it was sometime in the Spring. (the birth of lambs)


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:33 am 
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Presumably with the calendar problems caused by the incorrect year length they did celebrate it on December 25th - what would they have called the date of his birth - obviously not December.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:05 pm 
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Emergence (pronounced proyet [b]which lasted from October 21st to February 21st)[/b]


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:40 am 
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if the census story in the NT is correct, then jesus was born end of sep early oct, as all roman censi took place at the beginning of october


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Re: Horus vs Jesus
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:00 am 
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Thank you for answering some of my questions. Still I hope for more...

So far, the number 1 question seems more or less confirmed (although no one quated a manuscript source for that):

1) Horus was "born" on december 25th. - more or less somewhere around that date at least.

2) Horus was born of the virgin Isis. Was that written somewhere? - apart from one post from Mr "Horus" who says there had been some magic about it, he was not sure about "virginity" or not.

Still all other questions are not tackled a bit:

3) His birth was accompanied by the East star, which was followed by three kings to find him as savior. Was that written somewhere?

4)Was Horus a teacher at the age of 12?

5) Did Horus have 12 disciples?

6) Did Horus performed the miricles like walking over water and healing the sick people at least somewhere in ancient scripts?

7) Was Horus also known (among other names) under the name: the lamb of God?

8) And finally, was he crusified and resurrected after 3 days or not?

Yes, these questions have been posed on Internet and in some books, so I got interested if they can or cannot be confirmed. But the truth can be only ONE.
That is why I am asking you, the people who could really be reading some of the original texts of ancient Egypt.

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Horus said: forget the tv , movies and so on , information there is aways represent only in one point of view , the problems very reary are observed from all sides , therefor most of the TV productions are not good approach for learning something


There is some truth in that what Horus said. But I think the TV shows, movies, although controlled from high places, by rich people, by politicians and manipulatiors of all sorts, are VERY GOOD for intellectually inclined people to check their perceptions and their current believes. Religions, globalism, manipulations, lies, truths, everything is on media like goods on big market place. You are a buyer who is going through that market looking for something. If you are not clever, educated, lucky and careful - you will be cheated by some crook. The same is with media - they are most of the time soul hunters, looking for your mind and sole.

Horus advocate books for learning, and MOST OF THE TIME he is right. But the books are almost never studing all sides of the question either. There are very few books trying to observe a problem from all sides. The books are usually also very biased. The books also belong to the virtual market place I explained in the previous paragraph.

And of course, Happy New Year for all of you, wishes you health and all other best! :P


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:54 pm 
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There is no one true my frined , and there is no black and white here:)
Also i am realy right most of the time , so better take my advice and read the book :)
cheers


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:27 am 
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Horus wrote:
There is no one true my frined , and there is no black and white here:)
Also i am realy right most of the time , so better take my advice and read the book :)
cheers



Of course I shall read the book, thank you for that.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:11 pm 
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great!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:27 pm 
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Comparing Jesus and Horus is, in my opinion, like comparing apples and oranges! I'm sure, if you search long and hard enough, there will be some out-standing similarities But to compare the two? Jesus was a living, breathing person. (There is still much discussion on this, BTW) Horus was a mythical god.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:27 am 
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There is the outside chance the myths were based on real, historical happenings - unlikely but Homer provided enough astronomical data to date Odysseuses return to with a few hours.


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