In other words, they didn't have experts telling them that things couldn't be done. Mankind as a wonderful ability to dream dreams and make them come true. The ancients are the best examples, i know of this ability of mankind.
Nobody is saying that things could not be done, we (unorthodox thinkers) are just stateing that there are different and better ways of doing things, posted Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:52 am
that was within the capabilites of the Ancient Egyptians
and also may i add the the GP resonates in allignment with the earths frequency. an 'a' flat or something
posted Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:47 am
what exactly are you saying here? i am saying that the ancient egyptians did dream, they dreampt up far more advanced ways than we are just comprehending, i am not saying that they cannot do things, nor is any other unorthodox thinker we are saying that the Ancient egyptians are smarter than thought by orthodox Thinkers, its those who dont beleive point that the Ancient egyptians had no advanced machineing techinques that are offending their memory, all i want to find out is the truth, and in a technological viewpoint the unorthodox people seem alot more correct, if you can give me REALY GOOD EVIDENCE then i will change my mind
posted Sun Jun 20, 2004 8:00 am
Any rebuttle? this is just getting interesting for me! posted Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:53 am
Hi again Tash, i hope you don't mind my condensing your posts. Made it easier for me to answer. First off, i don't get to the computer often at home. i do most of my posting at work, i have a really nice job that allows me that pleasure. Also i am quiet busy with research on my own. So sometimes i am able to get right to a response other times it takes awhile. So please be patient if i am not right back.
Now to your posts. First off i am not interested in making you change your mind, sorry. Believe what you want to, i assure you, i lose no sleep in worrying over what other folks think. My interest is in providing the best evidence available so folks can make decisions based upon a variety of information.
You are not the only unorthodox thinker when it comes to Egyptian history. I have been burned by some of the greats of modern archaeology with my own unorthodox thinking. However, instead of raising the rectoric of "you're not taking me seriously" and being very sure of my position i simply beg off, and hit the books again. The next time, i am heard of in the circles of Egyptian scholars
i will be prepared, and i am certainly grateful to those greats, and near greats for their challenges. Because i can now give them answers that will force them to reconsider their positions.
What did i mean by my statement. Well, it is a defence for the ancients. There is a very large subfield called "catastrophic research and study" it is best represented by the Society for Interdisciplinary Studies. Which is the oldest and most up to date society for catastrophist information and research. The SIS was formed in 1974 to consider the role global cosmic catastrophes may have played in our history, and even recorded by cultures worldwide in their oral and written ancient traditions. This field took its inspiration from the work of Dr. Velikovsky who was one of the earliest to say, "hey, Egyptian and Biblical history as it is now being aligned does not work". Then provided another alternative and explaination of what might be a better way of considering the problem. It has been disproven but the field was born and continues.
It covers a wide varity of missing historical gaps and explains most of it in ways that, i find insulting to the ancients. Like the Bible and Egyptian history do not agree as generally accepted, therefore Egyptian history or the Bible is wrong. (The real problem lies in the christian chronology that is used to frame Biblical history.) Any way catastrophic destruction is used to describe why Atlantis sank, why the Sphinx and Pyramids are really older than they are, why the Mayans disappeared, etc. It is again, in my opinion a metaphor to support the belief that aliens did it all, took off and either natural earth destruction took place to eliminate alien proof of interference or the aliens themselves did it. Nor, is my belief without basis, for many of the supporters of aliens and such reasons use the work of catastrophes as their spring board to aliens.
Western Civilization has historically had a very poor view of the ancients, and primative peoples around the world. The natives of America couldn't have built pyramids, the great mounds of Ohio, Georgia etc. Aliens came in really helpful or missing races of super humans who came in, did the work and then disappeared without leaving any other traces. These were used in support of this biased and untrue assertion by scholars of the inability of ancients to do things these modern brains didn't believe possible.
Why does Egypt have the adverb 'mysterious' affixed to it? For much the same reason, Tash. Since the language, written and spoken, of the ancient Egyptians was forgotten by the 6th century AD. During the Renaissance dating to the 1500's AD Egypt was rediscovered but not the language that was so plainly on the remains of Egypt's ruins. The great western scholars of that age "know it all's" as i like to think. Actually in some cases made up stories of what they thought was being said. It wasn't until 1827 when Champollion broke the silence of the ancient Egyptians that folks were able to really read that the Egyptians were really very human. Meanwhile, "mysterious" continues to be used because it sells better than the reality that ancients are much like moderns.
Okay, now to your belief that the Egyptians used "advanced ways". Where did these advanced ways come from? You provide no evidence other than Chris Dunn, who i for the second time in my life find sadly lacking in proof, see above post for details. What happened to these advanced ways? Mankind is funny when something better comes along man continues to develop it, use it, but not in the case of pyramid construction. To me, Tash this is a loud warning light that something isn't normal and i become suspious. Mankind does not act irrational to lose "advance ways" isn't rational. Especially when there is no build up to them, this simply does not make sense to me. It harkens back to the catastrophic viewpoints that by their nature also bring up aliens. There are remains normally left behind... where are they, i ask? Not even drawings or written referrals to them. Why?
When unorthodox thinkers can answer honestly without distorting historical reality, and using proper sources for support (again see above post for details) of their unorthodox thinking. i, a most unorthodox thinker, will be happy to support their own works but not with the evidence you have provided me, i am sorry.
You wrote "may i add the the GP resonates in allignment with the earths frequency. an 'a' flat or something". First off i don't really understand what you're attempting to say. Second there is an accepted relationship between music and math, the Egyptians were early masters at math and music. The Egyptians understood well, the concept of dual purpose of something. So it is not, to me, out of the reaches of possibilities of the 4th dynasty priests responsible for building the 'GP' to dually conbine music with math in its construction. Mankind, is able to dream dreams and make them come true, even the ancients of whom we are the children of. And thirdly, you provide me with no source so i can try to understand better what you're trying to say to me.
And please remember i am not interested in making anyone change their thinking. If logic, evidence, and knowledge doesn't do it, me in my little room at work or at home sure isn't able to. I hope you a nice day.