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Who Adopted Moses ?!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:02 am 
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Many websites claim that there is a contradiction between the Quran and Egyptology concerning the person who adopted Moses. The Quran says that it was Pharaoh's queen while the books of Egyptology, based on the Old Testament, mention the Pharaoh's daughter. I believe the following website can help solve the riddle.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:52 am 
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The question of Moses in general steps into the realm of devine belief, there is actually no proof of the Moses story; actually no proof of Moses in general.
I know of no book on Egyptology that is based on Old Testament stories, only those which have been based on Devine Belief.
You have a perfect right to express your beliefs, and to give any souces which you might think "proves" that belief, but it is only a matter of that belief, not any existing evidence.


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Moses may have existed but I highly doubt that he existed during the 19th Dynasty. Nothing about the reign of Ramses the Great makes any sense for the story of the Exodus.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:12 am 
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Why would royalty adopt a baby that was found, when they had children of their own? In the case of Ramesses II, plenty of offspring. :?


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:19 pm 
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I quite agree with the last post and rather than rely on the Bible or Quran versions only why dont we, as interested eygptoligist, debate this subject and use the information we have in our possesion, it will be interesting and at the same time fun :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:42 pm 
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Sounds like a good idea to me. Image


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:43 pm 
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Ok i will start this off, so here goes.

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You have a perfect right to express your beliefs, and to give any souces which you might think "proves" that belief, but it is only a matter of that belief, not any existing evidence.


I agree with the above but disagree as well.

The evidence is in the oldest genealogy chart in the world and if you ignore the religous side of this book, The Torah, and see it as a written history of the foundations of a race and nation, then we can investigate whether the greatest Egyptian, Moses, exsisted.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:55 am 
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Osiris II wrote:
The question of Moses in general steps into the realm of devine belief, there is actually no proof of the Moses story; actually no proof of Moses in general.
I know of no book on Egyptology that is based on Old Testament stories, only those which have been based on Devine Belief.
You have a perfect right to express your beliefs, and to give any souces which you might think "proves" that belief, but it is only a matter of that belief, not any existing evidence.


I'm inclined to agree with you Osiris. If Moses did exist, why on Earth would a member of the royal family adopt a baby that just happened to turn up? Ramesses the Great had more than enough children of his own. I believe that he was the pharaoh of the Exodus.


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Meresankh wrote:
Why would royalty adopt a baby that was found, when they had children of their own? In the case of Ramesses II, plenty of offspring. :?


Yeah, I wanna know that too :roll:


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Who adopted Moses ?!!
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As an addition to this thread, it has to be kept in mind that there is an almost identical story told about King Sargon, part of his 'divine' provenance to kingship. Many historians believe that this was the most original source of the fable and that others are rehashes of the elements.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:26 pm 
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The evidence is in the oldest genealogy chart in the world and if you ignore the religous side of this book, The Torah, and see it as a written history of the foundations of a race and nation, then we can investigate whether the greatest Egyptian, Moses, exsisted.


There is no mention of moses whatsover in the Summerian king list


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:29 pm 
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Shepseskaf the Cool said:

"There is no mention of moses whatsover in the Summerian king list."

Sorry, Shepseskaf, I didn't make myself clear. The legend of King Sargon closely follows the narrative of the Moses story, and it is accepted that Sargon preceded any historical dating of the biblical Moses. So perhaps the Moses story is derived from that.

Here is one biographical entry for Sargon:
"There are many legends surrounding the birth and upbringing of Sargon, though they probably have varying degrees of truth. When the events from the legends are combined, we see that Sargon’s rise to emperor was a huge accomplishment. While the identity of his father is not clearly known, the legend states that his mother was a temple priestess. Giving birth to him in secret and setting him in a basket to float, she abandoned him to the Euphrates river. Akki, a gardener, rescued him from the river and raised him. After working as a gardener for Akki, Sargon rose to the position of cup-bearer to Ur-Zababa, the king of Kish."

And Wikipedia has this to say:

A Neo-Assyrian text from the seventh century BC purporting to be Sargon's autobiography asserts that the great king was the illegitimate son of a priestess. In the Neo-Assyrian account Sargon's birth and his early childhood are described thus:
“ My mother was a high priestess, my father I knew not. The brothers of my father loved the hills. My city is Azupiranu, which is situated on the banks of the Euphrates. My high priestess mother conceived me, in secret she bore me. She set me in a basket of rushes, with bitumen she sealed my lid. She cast me into the river which rose over me. The river bore me up and carried me to Akki, the drawer of water. Akki, the drawer of water, took me as his son and reared me. Akki, the drawer of water, appointed me as his gardener. While I was a gardener, Ishtar granted me her love, and for four and […] years I exercised kingship.[15] ”
The image of Sargon as a castaway set adrift on a river resembles the better-known birth narrative of Moses. Scholars such as Joseph Campbell and Otto Rank have compared the 7th century BC Sargon account with the obscure births of other heroic figures from history and mythology, including Karna, Oedipus, Paris, Telephus, Semiramis, Perseus, Romulus, Gilgamesh, Cyrus, Jesus, and others.

Hope this makes my reply clearer.


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Moses was sent adrift in a basket, he came floating into a palace, where I believe little Ramses was.


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