Ancient Egyptian Forum Forum Index Ancient Egyptian Forum

 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 


Who Adopted Moses ?!!

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Ancient Egyptian Forum Forum Index -> Pharaohs
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Doctor Deen
Servant


Joined: 07 Mar 2006
Posts: 5
Location: Alexandria, Egypt

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: Who Adopted Moses ?!! Reply with quote

Many websites claim that there is a contradiction between the Quran and Egyptology concerning the person who adopted Moses. The Quran says that it was Pharaoh's queen while the books of Egyptology, based on the Old Testament, mention the Pharaoh's daughter. I believe the following website can help solve the riddle.

PLz visit www.doctordeen.blogspot.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Google
Sponsor





PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: Advertisement

Back to top
Osiris II
Pharaoh


Joined: 13 Mar 2004
Posts: 914
Location: Long Beach, CA

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The question of Moses in general steps into the realm of devine belief, there is actually no proof of the Moses story; actually no proof of Moses in general.
I know of no book on Egyptology that is based on Old Testament stories, only those which have been based on Devine Belief.
You have a perfect right to express your beliefs, and to give any souces which you might think "proves" that belief, but it is only a matter of that belief, not any existing evidence.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Daughter of Anath
Servant


Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 12:19 am    Post subject: Moses Reply with quote

Moses may have existed but I highly doubt that he existed during the 19th Dynasty. Nothing about the reign of Ramses the Great makes any sense for the story of the Exodus.
_________________
Let's go out to Egypt 'cause it's in the plan, Sleep beside the pharaohs in the shifting sand.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Meresankh
Prince/Princess


Joined: 22 Jul 2008
Posts: 253
Location: England

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would royalty adopt a baby that was found, when they had children of their own? In the case of Ramesses II, plenty of offspring. Confused
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kozzol
Servant


Joined: 07 Dec 2008
Posts: 18
Location: England

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite agree with the last post and rather than rely on the Bible or Quran versions only why dont we, as interested eygptoligist, debate this subject and use the information we have in our possesion, it will be interesting and at the same time fun Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Meresankh
Prince/Princess


Joined: 22 Jul 2008
Posts: 253
Location: England

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a good idea to me.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kozzol
Servant


Joined: 07 Dec 2008
Posts: 18
Location: England

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok i will start this off, so here goes.

Osiris II

Quote:
You have a perfect right to express your beliefs, and to give any souces which you might think "proves" that belief, but it is only a matter of that belief, not any existing evidence.


I agree with the above but disagree as well.

The evidence is in the oldest genealogy chart in the world and if you ignore the religous side of this book, The Torah, and see it as a written history of the foundations of a race and nation, then we can investigate whether the greatest Egyptian, Moses, exsisted.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Nefertari1
Scribe


Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Posts: 66
Location: England

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Osiris II wrote:
The question of Moses in general steps into the realm of devine belief, there is actually no proof of the Moses story; actually no proof of Moses in general.
I know of no book on Egyptology that is based on Old Testament stories, only those which have been based on Devine Belief.
You have a perfect right to express your beliefs, and to give any souces which you might think "proves" that belief, but it is only a matter of that belief, not any existing evidence.


I'm inclined to agree with you Osiris. If Moses did exist, why on Earth would a member of the royal family adopt a baby that just happened to turn up? Ramesses the Great had more than enough children of his own. I believe that he was the pharaoh of the Exodus.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Akhnaton
Egyptian Architect


Joined: 14 Feb 2009
Posts: 129
Location: Amarna

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Why Reply with quote

Meresankh wrote:
Why would royalty adopt a baby that was found, when they had children of their own? In the case of Ramesses II, plenty of offspring. Confused


Yeah, I wanna know that too Rolling Eyes
_________________
Amarna
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Scribe2
Servant


Joined: 26 Jan 2009
Posts: 11
Location: Auckland, NZ

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:18 pm    Post subject: Who adopted Moses ?!! Reply with quote

As an addition to this thread, it has to be kept in mind that there is an almost identical story told about King Sargon, part of his 'divine' provenance to kingship. Many historians believe that this was the most original source of the fable and that others are rehashes of the elements.
_________________
Remember the famous words:

Logic is an ordered way of going wrong without realising it. Gnosis is the only way towards truth.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Shepeskaf the Cool
Scribe


Joined: 19 Aug 2008
Posts: 71
Location: Hastings UK

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
The evidence is in the oldest genealogy chart in the world and if you ignore the religous side of this book, The Torah, and see it as a written history of the foundations of a race and nation, then we can investigate whether the greatest Egyptian, Moses, exsisted.


There is no mention of moses whatsover in the Summerian king list
_________________
If you listen very carefully, you can hear the gods are laughing.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Scribe2
Servant


Joined: 26 Jan 2009
Posts: 11
Location: Auckland, NZ

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shepseskaf the Cool said:

"There is no mention of moses whatsover in the Summerian king list."

Sorry, Shepseskaf, I didn't make myself clear. The legend of King Sargon closely follows the narrative of the Moses story, and it is accepted that Sargon preceded any historical dating of the biblical Moses. So perhaps the Moses story is derived from that.

Here is one biographical entry for Sargon:
"There are many legends surrounding the birth and upbringing of Sargon, though they probably have varying degrees of truth. When the events from the legends are combined, we see that Sargon’s rise to emperor was a huge accomplishment. While the identity of his father is not clearly known, the legend states that his mother was a temple priestess. Giving birth to him in secret and setting him in a basket to float, she abandoned him to the Euphrates river. Akki, a gardener, rescued him from the river and raised him. After working as a gardener for Akki, Sargon rose to the position of cup-bearer to Ur-Zababa, the king of Kish."

And Wikipedia has this to say:

A Neo-Assyrian text from the seventh century BC purporting to be Sargon's autobiography asserts that the great king was the illegitimate son of a priestess. In the Neo-Assyrian account Sargon's birth and his early childhood are described thus:
“ My mother was a high priestess, my father I knew not. The brothers of my father loved the hills. My city is Azupiranu, which is situated on the banks of the Euphrates. My high priestess mother conceived me, in secret she bore me. She set me in a basket of rushes, with bitumen she sealed my lid. She cast me into the river which rose over me. The river bore me up and carried me to Akki, the drawer of water. Akki, the drawer of water, took me as his son and reared me. Akki, the drawer of water, appointed me as his gardener. While I was a gardener, Ishtar granted me her love, and for four and […] years I exercised kingship.[15] ”
The image of Sargon as a castaway set adrift on a river resembles the better-known birth narrative of Moses. Scholars such as Joseph Campbell and Otto Rank have compared the 7th century BC Sargon account with the obscure births of other heroic figures from history and mythology, including Karna, Oedipus, Paris, Telephus, Semiramis, Perseus, Romulus, Gilgamesh, Cyrus, Jesus, and others.

Hope this makes my reply clearer.


Scribe2
_________________
Remember the famous words:

Logic is an ordered way of going wrong without realising it. Gnosis is the only way towards truth.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
luna1127
Tomb Robber


Joined: 21 Sep 2010
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:17 am    Post subject: NFL Jerseys Supplier Reply with quote

My dear friends,

Right now we have an absolutely huge selection of authentic NFL jerseys broken down by individual player. We have over 60 of the absolute hottest, most popular peyton manning jerseys . There is no better shop or store around for you to see such a vast array of jerseys from different players or different teams. Last season brett favre jerseys were some of the most popular for all fans. And now, michael vick jerseys have emerged as one of the most popular items in the league.

Kobe Bryant, shooting guard for the LA Lakers (number 24), was the 2008 NBA Most Valuable Player and is one of the most recognizable NBA basketball players. kobe bryant jerseys Watch your favorite NBA players drain threes from the arc while you wear their colors!

--------------------
cheap nfl jerseys
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
tutankhamun
Servant


Joined: 30 Oct 2010
Posts: 28
Location: England

PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moses was sent adrift in a basket, he came floating into a palace, where I believe little Ramses was.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Ancient Egyptian Forum Forum Index -> Pharaohs All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

Anti Bot Question MOD - phpBB MOD against Spam Bots
Blocked registrations / posts: 10373 / 0