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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably call him Hughie. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't heard Huy pronounced yet, but the name Tiy always sounds the same so I guess this is true for Huy too.
Yes, it is short for Amenhotep as far as I know.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how it comes from Amenhotep. I would understand <i>Ameni</i> or <i>Meni</i> or something similar, but Hui?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neith wrote:
I wonder how it comes from Amenhotep. I would understand <i>Ameni</i> or <i>Meni</i> or something similar, but Hui?


As far as I know, Huy was the name of one of Amenhotep III chief sculptors and not a nickname of the Pharaoh himslf. Huy described himself as "sculpltor of Amun" in his Theban tomb inscriptions.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 3:11 am    Post subject: Amenhotep Huy Reply with quote

I just did a search and found this:

Though there have been a number of new archaeological discoveries in the Bahariya Oasis (in Egypt's Western Desert) as of late, including the now famous Valley of the Golden Mummies, the tomb of Amenhotep Huy, a governor of the oasis during Egypt's New Kingdom, is traditionally one of its best known monuments.
Amenhotep Huy held the title, "Governor of the Northern Oasis". He was probably one of the officials appointed to govern Bahariya in accordance with a decree of Tuthmosis III, after that king apparently recognized the importance of the Oasis and its defensive position. Many such officials were sent from the Nile

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/huy.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neb-Ma'at-Re wrote:
Neith wrote:
I wonder how it comes from Amenhotep. I would understand <i>Ameni</i> or <i>Meni</i> or something similar, but Hui?


As far as I know, Huy was the name of one of Amenhotep III chief sculptors and not a nickname of the Pharaoh himslf. Huy described himself as "sculpltor of Amun" in his Theban tomb inscriptions.


I did some digging around and found that Amenhotep III had at least 4 officials with the name Huy!

1) the previously mentioned chief sculptor named Huy.

2)His very close friend and chief scribe (among many other titles) Amenhotep Son of hapu, who also went by the nickname Huy.

3)His chief steward of Memphis named Amenhotep Huy.

4)His southern Vizier, Amenhotep Huy.

Tutankhamun also had an official named Amenhotep Huy who was a viceroy of Wawat and Kush (Nubia).

So here we have 5 huys, 4 of which also go by the name Huy. But what does the name Huy mean? According to Budge (looking around and ducking as I type) there are two different meanings to Huy , each using different symbols:

1) hui = self
2) hui = illumination, light

If anyone can find pictures of inscriptions with the name Huy it would be helpful in finding the which meaning of the name Huy is accurate based on the glyphs.............unless of course someone here already knows!!!!!!?????
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 4:36 am    Post subject: Sorry Reply with quote

I was responsible for the last post but forgot to log on before i did! Cut me some slack I'm still a newbie here!...lol
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neb-Ma'at-Re wrote:

As far as I know, Huy was the name of one of Amenhotep III chief sculptors and not a nickname of the Pharaoh himslf. Huy described himself as "sculpltor of Amun" in his Theban tomb inscriptions.


Thank you, Neb-Ma'at-Re. I didn't mean it as Pharaoh's nickname, just as an ordinary nickname of Amenhotep name. I've got a bit interested in Ancient Egyptian names and nicknames.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neith,
Do you know the meaning of this nickname? Is it one of the two that I listed from Budge?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That information, that Hui is a nickname from Amenhoptep I've got from http://www.maatkare.com/names.html (if I remember it right, often I don't know where I've got some info from). Yes, it's there:

Sometimes a nickname is not so easy to explain for example Huy or Huya is used for the name Amenhotep, much like today Beau is used for Beauregard.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmmm....I don't really see the association between Amenhotep and Huy in comparison to Beauregard and Beau. Obviously Beau is part of the name Beauregard, but Huy is not a part of the name Amenhotep. You've got me quite curious about this name now. I'm going to do more research on it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neb-Ma'at-Re wrote:
Hmmmmm....I don't really see the association between Amenhotep and Huy in comparison to Beauregard and Beau. Obviously Beau is part of the name Beauregard, but Huy is not a part of the name Amenhotep.


Who knows, how was Amenhotep pronounced, maybe it was Amen-huy-tep. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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An ancient God associated with fertility and the Moon.


He was also a patron god of scribes and the inventor of the hieroglyphic system supposedly:-)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, because Min was associated with fertility and it was Khonsu who was the major lunar deity. Thoth holds the sun upon his head does he not? He was the god of scribes and wisdom however, a far cry from fertility or the moon. Min is not associated with the moon however and Khonsu is not associated with fertility. The only link is the evolution of the dieites Min and Amun to form Amun-Min, as Amun was the "father" of khonsu it would provide a link. Otherwise I am baffled.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of you interested in Thoth's relationship to the Moon and fertility i suggest the below website. It should answer most of your questions.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/moon.htm
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