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Ramses · Prince/Princess Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 377

I need as much information as you can get me about the plot to kill Ramses III, who was involved in the conspiracies and such. If you know anything, post what you know here. Thanks. Cool

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Tadukhipa · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:59 am Post subject:

I know it was by at least one of his wives. I think it might have been because her son wasn't going to inherit the throne. I'm not really positive on this though, it's one of those things I've been meaning to read about but I haven't gotten around to it yet. (Maybe after I learn how to write in hieroglyphs... Rolling Eyes

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Neith · Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:26 pm Post subject:

I know only some names like Pentaware, son of Ramesse III, then Mesedsure, Binemwase and Panek. But these aren't their birth names, because they were changed. Did Ramesse die in that plot?
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Meritaton · Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 5:42 pm Post subject:

He didn't die. If he did, his son Pentawer would have been Pharaoh and we wouldn't know about this at all... The wife was called Tiye. The others involved were mentioned with their names changed -- Mesedjsure ("Re hates him") possibly was Meryre ("Re loves him") originally, and Binemwase ("the evil in Thebes") could have been Khaemwase ("Born in Thebes" -- a popular name in the 20th dynasty).

(Info is from "Understanding Hieroglyphs" by Hilary Wilson.)

The whole thing reminds me very much of a similar plot to kill Pepy II. The queen involved there was Weretkhetes, also called Weretimtes, and her plot was discovered, too, although I don't know whether she wanted her son to be king or she wanted something else. Who's to say that history doesn't repeat itself? Smile

Daughter of Set · Servant Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 7

Sad thing: I knew Meryre and Khaemwase already. I need to figure out the real names of Pentaware (ESPECIALLY Pentaware, I'm writing a book about the thing from his POV) and Panek.
HELP!!
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Kiya · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:59 pm Post subject:

Originally posted by Meritaton

JOY! · Scribe Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 55

Kiya I agree.
By the way didn't he name a lot of kids after Rameses II kids? I seem remember hearing he did?
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Kiya · Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject:

Yeah and it used to confuse the hell out of me:-) I know he had a son called Amunhirkhepshef, Khamewase and Sethhirkhepshef. Sure there were more.

tnrees · Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:01 pm Post subject:

He probably didn't have much choice over using names used by Rameses II when you consider how many names Rameses II must have used.