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nefertikaure · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 8:23 pm Post subject: MUMMY OF NEFERTITI??

Joann Fletcher believes she's found the mummy of our queen Nefertiti.

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I recently heard about this also what does everyone think?Judging from the photograph there appears to be a resemblance between the mummy and portrayals of Nefertiti in statues.DNA tests would have to be done of course to check.Possibly DNA could be gotten from Tutankhamon's two children who are thought to be the children of Ankhsenamon,who was the daughter of Nefertiti.Hopefully we will know soon.Does anyone know of any news website which will be covering this?

Akhenaten · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:19 pm Post subject:

Wow! I hadn't heard anything about this. I searched Yahoo! news stories and this was poster under an hour ago, I thought you may like to read it, as well:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030610/ap_on_re_mi_ea/egypt_nefertiti_s_mummy_2
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Tadukhipa · Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 1:16 pm Post subject:

When I first read it, I thought that she'd actually discovered a new mummy. Turns out it's just a new theory about one of the three unidentifyed KV35 mummies (not the elder lady, the younger one). It's an interesting theory though. They don't do near as many DNA tests on these mummies and they really should. *pouts* I wanna know for sure!
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nefertikaure · Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 2:09 pm Post subject:

I'm going to see if I can find more information about this!
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nefertikaure · Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 2:27 pm Post subject:

If you guys don't already know this, the dicovery channel will show the two-hour special presentation 'Nefertiti Resurrected' SUNDAY, AUGUST 17th!!!! SO DON'T MISS IT!!!! Wink

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murphyz · Scribe Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 76 Location: London, UK

A detailed summary of the programme would be much appreciated if you have the time.

Joann was giving a talk in London, I think last year, but I missed it Sad

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Neith · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 7:06 pm Post subject:

Have a look at this site, it's about that mummy:
http://www.mummytombs.com/main.news.htm
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Akhenaten · Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 1:42 am Post subject:

Here's some more information about the possibility that the mummy from KV35 is Nefertiti. I wrote all this myself, I got my information from news articles on Yahoo! and the June 16th 2003 isue of TIME magazine:

The mummy of Nefertiti, long thought that it would never be discovered, may have been found my a British Egyptologist by the name of Joann Fletcher. She came to this idea when she was studying a fragment of a wig in a museum. It had been found in the tomb next to the mummy of a young lady's mummy. It was from the 18th Dynasty, the era in which Queen Nefertiti, wife of Pharaoh Akhenaten, ruled the mightly land. After getting permission from the Supreme Consel of antiquities she entered the tomb, which ahd been resealed after the royal mummies had been removed in the late 1800's. She found three mummies. One of an older lady, one of a young boy, and one of a young lady, approxomate age ot yet determined. She examined the mummy that she was most curious about. The younger one. A while back, seevral had thought that the elder woman may possibly be Queen Nefertiti. Now, however, she is most closely associated with Queen Tye, mother of Akhenaten. Joann Fletcher saw several interesting things. First, the younger lady's ears had been double pierced, a trait only seen in the portraits of Nefertiti and one of her daughters (Un-named in the news articles, as well as the impression og a tightly fitting brow-band, which were only worn in this time period by the Pharaoh and his principle, or head, wife. Away from the mummy, torn from the body, was an arm, bent in the position that it would have crossed the lady's chest, its hadn still in the position to clutch a sceptre of some kind. Only Queens have been found with their arm crossed in this position. The mummy itself bears a close resemblance to the ancient queen, known for her beauty, her name even meaning, "The beautiful one has come." The swanlike neck, the shape of the head, placement of the ears, shape of the nose and chin all resemble the famous painted bust of Nefertiti almost exactly. They hold the same grace. The face was badly mutilated, by some sharp, heavy obgect or another, probably an axe, by someone who didn't like this lady very much. The dead were treated with more respect than to be smashed in the face while being embalmed. So she had to be a contoversial figure. The mummy was examined with a portable x-ray machine and discovered to be a lady of 19-35 years, the right age-group for Nefertiti. Inside the smashed chest cavity are a number of pieces of jewelry.

Some, however, will not accept this new theory; Zahi Hawass, secretary general of Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities, went so far as to say that the Egyptologist had a "lack of experience."
Some are even saying that the x-rays reveal the mummy to be that of a 16-year-old girl.

Hawass dropped the theory without a thought, saying that you couldn't base a theory on the way someone looked, because the Amarna art was completely different from what people really looked like (However, I do not find this to be the case; in fact, I find the opposite to be true. The Amarna period is one that actually showed what people really looked like, and they didn't all look the same and have the same features, as Hawass also pointed out. Really, Nefertiti's painted busts is one of the most life-like presentations of anyone in the ancient culture. And what about those plaster heads of the people of the city, they don't all look alike!!! can there really be that much of a coincidence between the mummy and the bust?)
Another person said that DNA testing could not be done because there's no one to test it against. Well, I have a few testers for ya! What about the two daughters in Tutankhamen's tomb? If Ankhsenamun was daughter of Nefertiti, and the babies in the tomb were her daughters, then that's a relation. And many people think that Nefertiti was daughter of Aye, who was possibly son of Yuya and Thuya, who were the parents of Queen Tye. That's a lot of people to do DNA testing on!

Someone (Can't remember who and can't find it!) said that Discovery Channel (Who funded the expedition) did all this just to get that show on August 17th and have a big TV special to make people think they found something. Well, I'm sorry... But Zahi Hawass has live TV coverage all the time and he never finds anything!

Well, I'll leave it at that... add anything you know, as well, please
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AmeliaEgypt · Servant Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 25 Location: Oklahoma

I can't believe it! Laughing

the mummy of the most beautiful woman of Ancient Egypt and of all times might have been found! this will be about as great as find of Tutankhamen!
Embarassed

Sorry i get alittle worked up over this kind of thing, especially is it's over Egypt or Egyptology.
Anyways, does anyone know when it'll be offically announced that it is or isn't Nefertiti?
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Akhenaten · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:19 pm Post subject:

Well, Dicovery channel is having a special on August 17th, I think. It's a sunday, I believe. But I don't know whether they'll be announcing whether it really is or isn't or not.... Zahi Hawass is Secretary head of Egypt's Supreme council of Antiquities, and since he doesn't believe it, he probably won't let them do that...
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