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Hatshepsut (Probably) Found!

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:56 am    Post subject: Hatshepsut (Probably) Found! Reply with quote

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/06/25/egyptqueen_arc.html?category=archaeology&guid=20070625181630

I read this and thought, OMG, they finally found her mummy! Of course, maybe it will turn out not to be Hatshepsut, but since Zahi Hawass is involved, it most likely is.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last night, I saw a commercial on the Discovery Channel for a special they're doing on it called "Secrets of Egypt's lost queen", which aires July 15th at 9pm. I first found this out on the yahoo news thing, and now yesterday my friend called my up and said that:

A. The DNA of her grandmother and herself matched. (Yea...what?)

B. The teeth they found in the jar with her liver in it fit perfectly in her mouth where the missing holes were.

Hawass concluded yesterday (I think it was him, it had to be, cause God forbid he doesn't get the glory of revealing it to the world!) that they were 100 percent sure it was here. If it is, then I'm throwing a party, who's with me?! Very Happy Hatshepsut par-tay!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you notice the quick cover your butt that Hawass did? Originally, when the search for Hapshepsut was considering the mummy , his comment was "it's only an obese mummy with a missing tooth"!
Later, that was ammended, he corrected himself with "When I saw the mummy had her arm on her chest, I knew it was Royality".
Fast!
But I must admit--even though the mummy is, without a doubt, Hapshepsut, I cannot bring myself to believe she was a fat, old woman! I always think of her as a young, vibrant, exciting person...
Oh well--PARTEEEEEEE!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
When I saw the mummy had her arm on her chest, I knew it was Royality".

Hawass said told Jo Ann Fletcher that she was making wrong assumptions about the royal pose of the mummy she thought to be Nefertiti just on how the arms are postitioned. Then he comes back with "I knew all along."
Anyway the announcement has been made "offical" that the body in question is Hatshepsut.
Hawass's site has some interesting pics of the research and the mummy itself.
Arrow http://guardians.net/hawass/hatshepsut/search_for_hatshepsut.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get your VCR's ready! I understandy Discovery is going to have a program on July 15th that will talk about the new find.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This just in from the Cairo paper:"Two additional unidentified New Kingdom mummies originally
> found in the cache of 1881 at Deir Al-Bahari [were also examined].
> The first, designated as "Unknown Woman B", was of an older woman,
> bald in front and with the remains of white curly hair and fake black
> locks attached. "At first glance it seemed not to be royal but CT-scans
> revealed that the arms were originally crossed over the chest, a sign
> of royal mummification," says Ashraf Selim, professor of radiology
> at Cairo University. Scans also revealed the second mummy, "Unknown
> Woman A", had been mummified in an unusual position. The head is
> bent to one side, the legs crossed below the knees and her mouth is
> wide open, suggesting she suffered some kind of trauma at the time of
> her death. Her left leg is broken in the front and her arms have been cut
> off, possibly by thieves. " (...)
> "The result of the scans shows that Thutmose II was suffering from
> heart disease which led to his early death. (..). The scans show that the
> mummy [of 'Thutmosis I'] belongs to a young man who was not placed
> in the royal pose of mummification, and had the remains of an arrow
> embedded in his chest, implying that he had been killed, whereas
> Thutmose I died of natural causes. The mummy is that of a man who
> died at the age of 40, making it impossible for him to be Hatshepsut's
> father. "
>
> And clarity about the cause of death of the obese lady of KV60 --
> not liver cancer but indeed bone cancer as most early reports had:
> "a 2cm wide tumor in her left leg"
>
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be so awesome if this were really her Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I plan on watching the show on Discovery, although I hope it does a better job in its presentation than "Nefertiti Resurrected. " Rolling Eyes

But I do find it to be very exciting that Hatshepsut's remains have been identified, and think she deserves all the attention that she is getting. I also have no problem with her turning out to be old and fat.....seeing her in such a way restores a bit of the humanity that has been lost by the passage of thousands of years and her being one of the "big dogs" in the history book.

We often have a habit of perceiving the ancients as being larger than life(and it is difficult to see her as anything but), and they become more like legendary characters than real people just like us. Being able to see Maatkare's mortality and vulnerability somehow restores her humanity, taking some of the focus off of her impressive legacy and directing it to an aging, obese woman who suffered from cancer and bad teeth. Does that make any sense at all?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's nothing wrong at all with finding out that Hatshepsut was overweight. After all, the Egyptians considered this a sign of wealth, so surely it's easy to suppose that many rulers and nobles were a little overweight. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daughter_Of_SETI wrote:
There's nothing wrong at all with finding out that Hatshepsut was overweight. After all, the Egyptians considered this a sign of wealth, so surely it's easy to suppose that many rulers and nobles were a little overweight. Confused


I agree, there is nothing at all wrong with her having been overweight. What I meant was that by knowing such details about her, it makes her seem more human. Intead of just having idealized(masculine, even) statues of her, we now have a more accurate picture of a living, breathing person......fat and all. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For most of history you had to be rich to afford to be fat so being fat was a status symbol.
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