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KV55-- Who is he/her/it?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 12:17 am    Post subject: KV55-- Who is he/her/it? Reply with quote

Since most of you think KV55 is Smenkhkare, I must remind you of the implications.



Above is a reconstruction of the KV55 mummy. It bears little resemblance to most common busts of Smenkhkare, and looks to me more like Akhenaten than anything. The jaws are prognathous, the face is long, and these features are seen in portraits of Akhenaten in Amarna artwork.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree that there is some resemblence between the two pictures you posted. But i dont know if i could agree that it was Akhenaton until i saw more evidence.if you have any more information on it, please email me at softballstar_amw@juno.com with it thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only problem is, we don't actually have any depictions that we are DEFINATELY, ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY sure are Smenkhkare (At least that's what I read). If that were the case, and even if it weren't, surely since the mummy in KV 55 is related to Akhenaten, it would have some resemblance to him, right? And if Smenkhkare were Akhenaten's son, then it would surely be possible that he would look like his father. That sketch also looks a lot like Tutankhamen, too, but we know it's not him. But, we still never know. It could be Akhenaten, after all, but it could not be him just as easily.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish BESS didn't block those pics.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So is this BESS on your home computer or what? You should really talk to your parents about it, because it sounds like a real pain in the backside.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, they surely looked somewhat similar because they were related.
BTW I read somewhere that KV55 was about 25 yrs old when he died so that makes him more Smenkhy than Akhenaten.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meritaton wrote:

BTW I read somewhere that KV55 was about 25 yrs old when he died so that makes him more Smenkhy than Akhenaten.
Smenkhy? Laughing Is that sure that KV55 mummy was about 25 years old? I read somewhere he was about 40... dunno...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neith wrote:
Is that sure that KV55 mummy was about 25 years old? I read somewhere he was about 40... dunno...


Of course it's not sure... every Egyptologist has a different opinion on the age of each mummy ever been found Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard that Akhenaten died at 19 or sometinng.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well he ruled for 17 years, and there isn't any evidence of him taking the throne when he was two so most believe that he died in his thirties.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I thought. Something around 19 he ruled. I just got mixed up.
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 12:20 am    Post subject: Tomb 55 mummy Reply with quote

Check out the message I left on the other thread concerning tomb 55.
The remains in the tomb were a young man, between the ages of 20 and 25 when he died. There was no abnormality about the skull. Resemblance to Tut was strong. The woman who did the autopsy was convinced it was Smenenkhara.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the unknown mummy in KV55 is not Smenkhkare but Akhenaton. I may be way off base but I think Smenkhkare was really Nefertiti, taking on the role of male king, after Akhenaton died. The funerary things for "Smenkhkare" were probably for Nefertiti and put with Akhenaton when their bodies were moved, as it is said the items were made for a woman and changed to "fit" a man. They could have been purposely mixed up to try to help protect the bodies from harm form vengeful people. It is said maybe King Tut and "Smenkhkare" were brothers because they resembled each other and had matching DNA, but so would father and son.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that the occupant of the Coffin was Smenkhkare, the most clinching evidence for this being the fragemtary cartouche of his discovered in the tomb, and the partially erupted wisdom teeth that for me strongly (but not conclusiely) deny the skull as being that of Akhenaten. Furthermore, the reconstruction picture does nothing to convince me. If you have watched programs like 'Meet the Ancestors' or anything similar, then you will know that reconstructive facial modelers cannot (ever) recreate the parts of the face that are comprised of cartilidge or soft tissue with accuracy. The most obvious places where reconstuctive artists have to 'make things up' are the nose, lips, eyes and chin- which are here the features that define Amarna art. Besides which it would be naive readily to conclude that Akhenaten looked as he does in Amarna art. The illustrator has most certainly used her artistic license to the extreme.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree about the artistic liberties taken in the drawing. It is even prevelent in Amarna art itself.

These are all pictures of Akhenaten:






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