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Hatshepsut76
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merytre-Hatshepsut wrote:

But you are right I think in pointing out that he still could have been poisened.

I thought it was rather interesting that the scans answered some questions and then turned right around and posed some more questions Very Happy


Till I got interested on Tut's murder I've always thought he coul be poisoned!! I also would like scans could answer some questions! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just discovered this board, and am avidly reading the different postings. This one is unbelievable! Why does almost everyone here want to believe in a conspiracy leading to murder? There are few facts available from the period, but these tend to be ignored. Simple errors get magnified here - can't wait to get onto the pyramids!

It is more likely that he did die as the result of a hunting accident. However, if he was murdered, it would be more likely for him to be poisoned, and that could not show up in any scan or analysis. So the speculation can continue - my theory - Tutankhamen died because the Amun priesthood realised that at the age of 18 or so, he was wanting to reinstate Atenism, and as Egypt was just recovering from the policies, or rather, lack of them, of Akhenaten, it was necessary to remove him.
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First i would like to say that i do beliveve that Tut was murderd. I will think that till someone absolutley prooves me wrong. But i know i can be wrong it is just what i beileve.
I have been reading these posts and all for a while and Tut most likely did have a broken leg. But I dont beileve that killed him. It is probable that some of these thingds everyone says are true but most likely not all of them. Smile I still dont think that a helthy young 18 year old Pharaoh would die of natural causes when all these people had a motive. I mean they all might have wanted to kill him to get what they want. Why would they care if a young 18 yo died to get it. Also I heard that Tut had a brother named Smenkare. He died rite before HE was gonna becaome pharaoh. His dad died to around the time that Smenkare did. That is why Tut became pharaoh. Allthough he wasn't ready for it. I think whoever they may have been killed so that Tut would become Pharaoh and it would be easyier to kill Tut than The other one because the other one was probabley older and more knowledgeable to being king.
But that is just what i think i have no proof. It is possible that mabey King Tut had a broken leg that had an open cut and got infected and killed him but i do not believe that is true. And no one has shown me proof so i can go on believeing it. Cool
But still i have no proof on my theory and i have seen no other. And Like i said THEORY. Not fact.
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But on a different point. Did anyone know that Tuts guts and stuff are in the treasury? GROSS!!!!!!! Exclamation Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And his two baby kids were in there with his guts because Anks. had 2 misscariges. Crying or Very sad Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:19 pm    Post subject: Tut assasinated? Reply with quote

Hello everyone!
I am curious to know why there are theories of Tutankhamun's death that involve Ankhsenamun. Any thoughts?
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Becasue she is one of the three suspects to his murder....... if he was murdered.... but dont get me wrong i still totally beileve he was..... and i still find it nasty that his guts are with the tresure...... and his two baby's. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O yeah and ummmmm...... HI! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tut's Investigator--you have the wrong attitude with regards to Tut's "guts" as you put it.
They were removed from his body, dried with natron, wrapped in linen, enclosed in small, golden coffins and then placed in the canopic shrine, which was that beautiful, smaller golden "block" with the 4 protective goddessess standing around it.
When Carter discovered the tomb, ultimately it was sent to the Cairo Museum and put on display with the rest of the contents of the tomb.
His chldren, both still-born, were also in small coffins in the tomb. As objects of great beauty, the soffins were sent to Cairo also. The children were removed and sent to a local hospital were they were examined to find out the cause of death. After autopsy, they were "lost" for many years, just recently discovered and sent to the Cairo Museum, where they are in storage.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crying or Very sad I'm sorry...*Sniffles*...I know that the infants are dead and mummified...but...I can't BEAR to think of two baby girls like that in STORAGE... Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad It sounds sad to me, but hey, I'm a humanitarian, even for the deceased!! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm..I'm all late Sad

anyways it is possible that he could've been murdered but, didn't he have shiliosis (I know thats spelled wrong LOL) he could've easily died of sickness or by accident. These days people will do anything for money, why not make up a story that the boy was murdered, one reason why they haven't performed the scan on him, cause they know he wasn't really murdered. Anyways this is all speculation..maybe he was murdered maybe not. Rolling Eyes

I also thought that was sad about his two still born baby girls. Maybe Ankhesenamun was under some stress (I would be being a queen and all I can't imagine how much stress that can bring Shocked )
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joy, the recent CT scan shows that Tutankhamen was a normal, healthy young man when he died. The scoliosis (sp?) to which you refer , his "bent" spine, was shown to be the result of his mummy being "crammed" into its coffin.
His children were probably still-born more as a genetic trait than anything Akhensenamen experienced. After years of in-breeding, the 18th Dynasty roay family just seemed to "run out of steam". There seems to have been no male children born after Tutankhamen. Even the change in males with Horemheb did not produce an heir--that's one of the reasons he named Rameses I as his successor, although he was an old man, his grandson--Seti I--was already around.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll add the reminder that there's debate over whether those two infants (fetuses, actually) were even daughters of Tut in the first place. Yeah, I know, it would seem obvious, and I myself believe they were his children, but it's odd that their coffins are not even inscribed to show some sort of identification.

It wasn't unheard of to bury infants without an inscription identifying them--perhaps the Egyptians felt a baby had to be of a certain age to warrant such treatment. That's very free conjecture on my part, mind you! Wink But there's usually some kind of inscription in a literate family to show to whom the infant belonged, that the deities of the afterlife might know who he or she is. We have just such a coffin in our exhibit at the Field Museum. It contains a brother and sister (twins) maybe a couple of years old at death, and though their little shared coffin does not give us their names, in demotic script it tells us their father's: Myron.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First i would like to say that i like all yalls attitudes on this. And no i did not "have the wrong attitude" about his guts. I knew all of what you said but even so i think of it the same way i think of the other room. Where all of his things are that he used in his normal life. It was his. Inside of him so it is kind of diiferent for that to be outside of him in a gold box surrounded by the four statues then the way we are ussually burried.

And the babies i dont think i said are gross. If i did i am sorry cause i think it is sad not gross.

And i know it is possible about him not being murdered. But i dont think it is for money. One of the reasons i say he was murdered is because if he was.... shouldnt someone know. It would be kinda sad if no one knew. I mean if you were murdered wouldnt you want people to know who did it? Idea I would.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and by the way kmt_sesh Tuts tomb was made with haste mabey that is why there was no inscription.

and i didnt really get that last part Wink
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