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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But i now have 2 things to think of that happened to him. I just cant make up my min. The concussion or the charriot, The concussion or the charriot. Rolling Eyes Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been translating the results of the scan of Tut...which can be also find here
http://www.guardians.net/hawass/press_release_tutankhamun_ct_scan_results.htm

I think you should read it carefully....it tells a lot of things Wink

1-he didn't die for a blow to his head, scientists have proven that the piece of bone has broken by the priests during the embalming process.
2- the sternum and ribs have been cut...so it is quite probable that it has been done by Carter's team while looking for artifacts of gold (which seemed to be their first aim!!)
3-Tut could not have died due to the break to the leg bone (this cannot cause death) and no sign of infection was detected in the soft tissues in the area, so he could not died for such an infection.
4- it is too quite probable that the boneof the leg was broken after his death, by Carter's team while trying to unglue the body from the coffin. Scientists found few remains of resins along the edges of the broken bones which, at first sight,made them think of the fact that it could happened a little before Tut's death, but then they soon realise that those resins where just few drops that could have fit the internal side of the fracture due to the fact that Carter's team used lamps to heat and unglue the body from the coffin, so the resins melted inside the edges of the fractured bone of the left leg.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So U dont believe it was murder? I do. Cool Laughing Smile Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't say that!
read carefully! Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Carter's daughter still alive?

It's pretty obvious that Carter is dead now, due to the ravages of old age. But is his daughter still alive? If she were, she'd be in her eighties or nineties by now. I ask because she was there during the excavation - she was the first one to take pictures of the tomb, too! Perhaps she would be a valuable resource to say exactly what went on during the excavation?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wasn't Carter's daughter, but Lord Carnarvon's, Lady Evelyn Herbert, who was present at the opening(s). Alas, she died in 1979 at age 78. Harry Burton, on loan from the Metropolitan Museum, took hundreds of photographs at different stages of the excavation. Many of these photos were published at the time and later collected and republished in book form.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what do u think happened to him? Cool Very Happy Smile Laughing Wink Exclamation Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.....did you finish the emoticons???

According to me he's been killed....but that's my own idea and stil there are no evidences of that or not. He could also have been poisoned...but we cannot make tests to established if this was the case or not.
So, every possibility is still opened. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The order of events and the succession to the throne following his death strongly suggest that Tut's demise was not an accident. How the deed was done is going to be almost impossible to prove, thanks to (among many others) Howard Carter and his crew.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I finished the emoticons.. Smile
But still one thing is that i know it is VERY important to find out what truely happened to King Tut. But i also htink everyone should stop take a breath and get ALL of the facts first. If they did that mabey it would come to them easy. If you agree with me post reply Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But still no matter what i say he was Murderd. NO accident in this case to me Crying or Very sad Poor 18 year old.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Originally posted by Tuts Investigator:
But still no matter what i say he was Murderd.


No matter what, huh? Sounds like "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts." You may well be right, but you should let the facts dictate the conclusion, and not the other way around. Do you have all the facts? Do you think we do? If so, will we all get some kind of Psychic Flash and suddenly receive Illumination? Again, I think your theory may be a valid one, but it's still just that...a theory. What evidence have you uncovered in support of it?

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never said i was sure but i REALLY believe that he was murdered. I think that everyone has all these different ideas but fairly said they are all just theory's. I know that i will never know what really happened but still i know what i think happened. But i do know all the facts my brain could take on King Tut! Smile But when it comes to the word facts who says all the things i read on the internet or something are true? Cool I guess that is another thing i will never knw but still i know what i think and if some one will proove me wrong on one of my theorys then good i will think of an other one but i will allways think that he was murderd because the poor guy was 18 and fairly healthy. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and by the way i think the facts are a very IMPORTANT thing and i DONT get confused by them now. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maatkara wrote:

3-Tut could not have died due to the break to the leg bone (this cannot cause death) and no sign of infection was detected in the soft tissues in the area, so he could not died for such an infection.


That's not what the report says actually.

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The part of the team that subscribes to this theory also notes a fracture of the right patella and right lower leg. Based on this evidence, they suggest the king may have suffered an accident in which he broke his leg badly, leaving an open wound. Although the break itself would not have been life-threatening, infection might have set in.


There is no agreement among the researchers. Some say that there may have been an infection. Others claim there wasn't.

The report doesn't say this, but a wound could cause "blood poisening" (I don't know what the english term is). This would not show up as an infection at the wound site, but is actually lethal. (I actually know someone who had something like this happen. On his arms you could only see scratches, but there was this bright red line on the interior of his arm. He needed medical treatment for this. In the old days I think this would have killed him.)

But you are right I think in pointing out that he still could have been poisened.

I thought it was rather interesting that the scans answered some questions and then turned right around and posed some more questions Very Happy
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