Ancient Egyptian Forum

[PooheadXII]

It's for a report and I can't find much good for it. I need this info::

-Dates the pharaoh ruled
-Location of the head bust of her
-Major achievements
-Family history
-Major events during reign

If you could find any of these, I'd be so grateful!! (:

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[Osiris II]

Do a Google search for Nefertiti. All sorts of sites will be available, and I'm sure you'll find the information you need on one or more of them.

[PooheadXII]

I can't find the dates when she ruled.

Can someone find where her bust was found?

[Unas]

She ruled in the Armana period, as Akhataten's queen. Since it was so long ago, and the fact that we know next to nothing about the Armana period, any 'exact dates' you find will be a rough estimate, and therefore lies, or useless.

Her bust is in Germany, in the Berlin museum. I suggest going to http://queen-nefertiti.com/ for a bit of a back-story on this.

We think she was married to Akhetaten and birthed Tutahnkaten, but it might have also been Tye that did that. We don't know for sure, and anyone that says they do is a liar.

She didn't really do much but get overrated. Do a google search, because I don't feel like getting into what she actually 'did' do.

But, like Osiris II said, do a google search. http://www.google.com/ It will have links to what you need to know.
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[Hatshepsut76]

I went to Berlin during summer 2004 and I went to the Egyptian Museum (I would like to write it in German, but I don't know how many of you know it! ); it was a real surprise to find her bust that welcomed you! I don't know if in the future this will still be there: I heard that Hawass wanted the bust come back to Egypt...

[Unas]

He can want it all he wants, but the Germans took it out legally. Even if it wasn't the right thing to do, they have permission to keep it!
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[Hatshepsut76]

I'm not doubting of what German people did, Unas; what I'm angry for is that Hawass wants each Egyptian treasure come back there... I think each museum in Europe and abroad should have objects of each culture; why not the Egyptian one?

[Psusennes I]

Hawass seems so puerile from a distance - there are so many reasons why he should not be allowed to steal back the Rosetta stone, bust of Nefertiti and other such treasures:

1) The Egyptian Museum can barely cope with what it already has - providing yet more relics would mean putting their conservation at risk.

2) The Egyptian Museum already has three times as much as it was originally intended to contain, and predates the discovery of Tut's tomb in construction date - objects are strewn haphazardly with little care as to their survival. Giving Hawass more objects would merely mean putting others in Cairo into storage to decay. Until Cairo museum is updated, I would not consider returning the stone or bust. This sort of merges with point 1)

3) The modern Egyptians cannot claim that the relics are 'a part of their history' as they are not the modern descendants of the Ancient Egyptians. The Arabic peoples arrived in Egypt much later.

4) The relics protected by England and Germany are much more accesible than many of the Egyptian objects - and are also kept with much greater care and reverence, and in far better facilities.

5) The Egyptian relics need to be distributed worldwide - they continue to incite interest and excitement amoungst everyone. Returning any one relic of importance to Egypt would lay the path for the rest to be returned, and resultedly many people would not be given the chance to see the wonders of the Ancient Egyptians for themselves.

6) Hawass comes across generally as being a pompous, arrogant, unscientific, and annoying zealot. Even if many people refute this vehemently, he certainly does have a large number of critics (many formerly members of the SCA), and upon becoming head of that organisation, he fired all of them from office. Tut Tut.
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[Senetseshat]

I agree that Hawass is arrogant and that the treasures of Egypt should not all be stored in one place. They are part of world heritage and everyone has a ght to enjoy them and a duty to protect them.

By the way PooheadXII, there is also a rather spurious suggestion that Nefertiti was the biblical Jezebel. I am not personally convinced, but it is interesting and fairly inventive. You should be able to find site on this in a google search , but check the facts where possible.
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[tnrees]

Just noticed where it says the bust was removed legaly - I heard that at the time the Egyptians got the best half of what was found - The Germans covered the bust in plaster of Paris - to 'protect' it & did not tell the Egyptians so when the Egyptians chose they thought the Nefertiti bust was only a roughly worked piece of limestone & took the 'better' one.

[BelovedofWa'Enre]

Nefertiti only gave birth to daughters.....It is believed that Kiya, a secondary wife, gave birth to Tutankhaten.....

In response to PooheadXII-
I cannot give you any good websites, but I can suggest a book...(I am prob too late...) I believe the title is Finding Nefertiti...? Something along those lines.....It's by a woman by the name of Joanna Fletcher....(I could have misspelled. I am going purely by memory and do not have the book with me...)

I just looked at the date. Nevermind. (And she was Royal Great Wife....Though some believe she ruled as Per-Aa....)
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[BelovedofWa'Enre]

Sorry to double post, but yeah. That is what is happened....lol....No way they would have gotten it out of the counrty otherwise.....lol
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