Ancient Egyptian Forum

Elise · Servant Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 33

Could someone please present the case for and against? What evidence is there that it is her/ it's not her?

Thank you all in advance

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khafre · Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:29 am Post subject:

the one in discovery said that it was really her..
first it was speculated that the mummy was a man, but then the size [i guess] of the pelvis, and the absence of a penis, gave way to proving that it was indeed a lady. It was estimated that the age of the lady was between 18-25, but Nefertiti died in her thirties, and also by observing the mummy pelvis, it could be said that it never gave birth, totally impossible if it was really Nefertiti [because the Queen gave birth to many daughters]. The mouth of the mummy was deformed so it can't speak its name to the Gods in the judgment.

Hawass has banned Joanne Fletcher from Egypt. Idea

I guess because he thought it an insult that one of the greatest queens of Egypt was nly buried in a corner [well, i guess u know what i mean]

Osiris II · Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:51 pm Post subject:

I think you should re-read the original post.
The subject was the bust now in Berlin, not Fletcher's claim of "Finding" Nefertiti.

Identification of the bust has been widely accepted as Nefertiti, although there was no actual written evidence found with the bust in the sculptor's workshop. But just the fact of finding it in the workshop helps to identify it. Many piece, of other royals, was found, including one that was at first identified as the death mask of Akhenaten, but is now identified as a mask of an older man. Nefertiti's bust, although not identified as such, was more than likely the sculptor's "practise" piece, and a statue was planned. (But never carved) The facial resemblance to known works of Nefertiti helps to identify it also, even though most early works were grossly exaggerated. At this point, and accepting most previous identification, I think it is quite safe to accept it as Nefertiti. (Trivia--only known facial bust to show the face symmetrically)

tbruner · Servant Joined: 21 Feb 2011 Posts: 44

The work shop you are talking about, is Thutmose's.

tnrees · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:52 pm Post subject:

When it was found the rule was finds were split 50/50 - The Germans covered it in plaster to 'protect' it so the Egyptians thought it was just a roughly carved piece & chose an inferior piece to keep.
On identification - it could be a daughter who resembled her.

tbruner · Servant Joined: 21 Feb 2011 Posts: 44

The bust in Germany is the bust of Nefertiti. Why it fits her description on the stelas at that time. It was found in Thutmose's work shop. It was made in preperation for a full statue of her.

tbruner · Servant Joined: 21 Feb 2011 Posts: 44

Thutmose plastered the stone, and painted the plaster. The word succo, morter, cement, and plaster all ment the same thing until the 18th century. The German's did not touch the bust, it was too valuable to mess with. Egyptians plastered just about everything, and they discovered that the plaster could be painted on. Their homes were plastered inside. The tomb walls were all plastered and painted on, and their palaces were plastered and painted on.