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Green_Day_Rock!! · Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:01 am Post subject: Papyrus Ipuwer

I don't know if i spelt it correctly but i need to know what the quotation 'He who places his brother in the ground is everywhere' means. I think it is from the Papyrus Ipunwer. If you can, Please Help
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Psusennes I · Pharaoh Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 913 Location: England

The Papyrus of Ipuwer, as you probably already know, has been seen by many as 'evidence' for the Exodus curses that God used through the Prophet Moses. In my opinion however, this is a leap to far, and it is quite obvious that the quotes refer to other events, and cannot be linked convincingly to the biblical accounts. Anyway- I shan't bother arguing that one, unless you disagree with me.

I have been scanning the web for a hieroglyphic version of the Admonitions, so that I can actually retranslate the line for you. It would seem (from the context) that the line refers to the idea of many sons dying and then being placed onto the ground. If the original Egpytian used the word 'm' then it could mean 'into' as well as 'on', thus indicating some sort of burial. The paragraph reads,

"Certainly, men are few, and he who places his brother on (into?) the ground is in all places. When the wise man speaks, he flees. (i.e. he flees in terror, not waiting to see what the reaction to his words will be)

Other lines support this idea of death and so on:

"pestilence is throughout the land, blood is everywhere, death is not lacking. . ."

"Indeed, many dead are buried in the river"

If you could help me to find the actual hieroglyphic (or transliterated) text then it would help a lot, as really it is quite hopeless trying to interpret other peoples translations, most of which were done when the text was discovered. Also, it'll be more fun that way! Smile

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Green_Day_Rock!! · Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 4:51 pm Post subject:

Thanks, i looked around but can't seem to find any hieroglyphic versions anywhere. I will try rooting around in the school library but i don't really think it will be there Sad

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Psusennes I · Pharaoh Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 913 Location: England

Yeah. I'll keep looking. What is all of this for?
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Green_Day_Rock!! · Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:29 am Post subject:

English belive it or not, my teacher want's us to find out the meaning of some quotations.
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saphira605 · Scribe Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 95 Location: California

dude i love the kitty its so cute and have u searched on the enter net yet i found alot of imformation and how do u like get the kitty or something else? Smile

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Ramsekh · Gods/Goddesses Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 746

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saphira605 · Scribe Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 95 Location: California

hi its me agin i have a quick question and one can answer:
can anyone tell me anything about makup used in egypt and if therer are any kids i can make easly at home with a few suplies?

Unas · Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:27 pm Post subject:

I'm assuming you mean the stuff they put around their eyes?

Maybe you can use a Rub-A-Dub marker...

Anyhoo, at http://www2.sptimes.com/Egypt/EgyptCredit.4.2.html, I found this ::

saphira605 · Scribe Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 95 Location: California

thanks for the details and stuff Very Happy

oh and u might want to think of updating ur picture
and thanks for the artical on make-up Wink

Unas · Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:38 am Post subject:

Update my picture? Whatever for?
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saphira605 · Scribe Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 95 Location: California

no affence it just lookes like to me like old and how do u get the post pics under ur screen name? Smile

Unas · Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject:

Sure, it's an old photo, but the color scheme was edited with Paint Shop Pro. I've had this account for a few weeks now; hardly old. Confused

To add a picture (otherwise known as an avatar), click the link that says "Profile" at the top of any kingtutone.com/board page.
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saphira605 · Scribe Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 95 Location: California

k sorry but i didnt now it was like not old and like my new avatar Smile

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Unas · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:50 am Post subject:

That's Behamut, from Final Fantasy, right? A bit overplayed, and old, eh?

Why go at just me about an "old avatar", and not anyone else?
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