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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, Osiris, for a very accurate answer. You beat me to the punch about Tut IV being the first to technically state the Aten as being a God rather than just an aspect of Ra-Atum.

It is also known that Akhenaten had spent some time acquainting himself with these traditions. Hatshepsut was a strong influence, but as you say, there was a theme going right back to Ahmose. It was Amenhotep III who had the boat called "The Aten Gleams", if i have remembered correctly, but there were other boats that contained Aten in their name.

It also has to be remembered that Akhenaton went through a process of developing this concept. He did not proscribe worship of effigies until year 7 or 9 in his reign. And from the boundary stelae he obviously had already taken some flak from the priesthood before he came to the throne. Perhaps even Amenhotep III had also.

So there is evidence that some of the things we see happening which we ascribe to the new worship of Aten, were in fact more about the conflict between Amarna and Thebes.

All said and done, the new worship failed, either because Akhenaten lost the confidence of power brokers like Horemhab, who could see foreign influence being damaged, or because the HPA at Thebes already had too much power for the royalty, or simply because the people of Egypt were too wedded to their traditional pantheon of gods..

The most fascinating thing is to try and assess whether the seeds of Judaism or Christianity were set here. Personally, I believe this is a very complex subject, and goes well beyond this forum.

Cheers to you all.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a tough question and really cant be answered. It depends on what you believe.

the bible was written over two thousand years ago by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John four of Jesus disciples. It was written by them 40 years after Jesus' death and ressurrection. The only reason it was so accurate was because as they wrote, if u know from the Bible, God had clothed them with the Holy Spirit who was with them in their hearts helping them. The Bible everyone knows today was in fact written by the Catholic Church. Other churches use it and have their interpretations of it. So how that could tie in with Atenism, idk.

So that is what i know, i hope it helps you on your quest. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sotenpre - you are talking of the new testament. Any tie in with atenism would be in the old testament
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all, it was nice to know that you are talking about the bible here. I am really glad to find you, guys. There's a lot of informative post I've been read. Bible was the instrument of God for us to know him better. This book was so magical, so we should respect and give importance to this.
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