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Hieroglyphics cracked 1,000 years earlier than thought.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may have been just an old photo, Psus. When I went to the BM, back in 1990, the Rosetta was not in a case. Hard to believe, but it was completely accessible to the public--just sitting on a pedestal at the entrace to the Egyptian Collection. This was before it was cleaned, and it looked as if it were basalt.
I was wondering, too, just what the "truth" was about the decipherment of the stone. Bel?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this version:
http://alsaadawi.exeedia.com/notes_display.asp?notes_id=18
and of coarse this site because of my study of religion as a whole from the beginning of time:
http://www.crcsite.org/egypt.htm
Where did you get the arab translation????
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grr. I hate that Alsaadawi person. He just looks as the pictures and then claims to know what they mean. When I look at the hieroglyphs I laugh at his translations of the Rosetta stone, because not only do they not fit at all with the Ancient Greek, and secondly because the actual Egyptian makes so much more sense!
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2005 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back on topic,
I still don't think the Rosetta stone was discovered 1,000 yr's. before previously thought; it is the instrument to which we look for in heiroglyph's.
Hieroglyphics And Rosetta Stone
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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2005 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bel, the original article didn't say that the Rosetta Stone had been found 1000 years ago, but just that the Heiroglyphs had been translated a thousand years before Champollion used the Rosetta Stone in his decipherment. The work done by Arab scholars has been long ignored, qiuite often because of the difficulting in reading Arabic.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Osiris II wrote:
bel, the original article didn't say that the Rosetta Stone had been found 1000 years ago, but just that the Heiroglyphs had been translated a thousand years before Champollion used the Rosetta Stone in his decipherment. The work done by Arab scholars has been long ignored, qiuite often because of the difficulting in reading Arabic.

Thank's for straightening me out; but as I understand it heiroglyph's are still not completely understood ... am I wrong here also?
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thank's for straightening me out; but as I understand it heiroglyph's are still not completely understood ... am I wrong here also?


I hope it's okay if I jump in here. Hieroglyphs are one of my favorite areas of Egyptology. And you're right, we still don't have a complete command of the hieroglyphic language. Now most experienced Egyptologists can go up to most inscriptions and read them off, but sometimes we're using conjecture when we're puzzling through the grammar and syntax of this stuff. We use the grammatical rules of modern languages to help us understand the structures of ancient Egyptian, and it isn't always a precise fit. But it's incredible how far we've come in just the last 100 years. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thank's for straightening me out; but as I understand it heiroglyph's are still not completely understood ... am I wrong here also?


I hope it's okay if I jump in here. Hieroglyphs are one of my favorite areas of Egyptology. And you're right, we still don't have a complete command of the hieroglyphic language. Now most experienced Egyptologists can go up to most inscriptions and read them off, but sometimes we're using conjecture when we're puzzling through the grammar and syntax of this stuff. We use the grammatical rules of modern languages to help us understand the structures of ancient Egyptian, and it isn't always a precise fit. But it's incredible how far we've come in just the last 100 years. Wink


Thank's for jumping in! Wink
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Thank's for jumping in!


You're most welcome. You'll find me jumping in all over the place. I can't contain myself. I just have to be careful so I don't land myself feet-first in a big pile of steamnig doo-doo. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Sesh wrote:
I just have to be careful so I don't land myself feet-first in a big pile of steaming doo-doo.


Very Happy Still better than landing head-first Shocked
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Merytre-Hatshepsut
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Still better than landing head-first


Oh, goodness, I hadn't even considered that. Shocked So true!

Psusennes I wrote:
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Grr. I hate that Alsaadawi person. He just looks as the pictures and then claims to know what they mean.


I was reading back through the posts and decided to check out this Aslaadawi's web page because I didn't know anything about him. So I clicked, read, had to go back and reread a few things he wrote, and can come to only one conclusion.

In my opinion, this Aslaadawi is a jackass.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kmt_sesh wrote:
Merytre-Hatshepsut
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Still better than landing head-first


Oh, goodness, I hadn't even considered that. Shocked So true!

Psusennes I wrote:
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Grr. I hate that Alsaadawi person. He just looks as the pictures and then claims to know what they mean.


I was reading back through the posts and decided to check out this Aslaadawi's web page because I didn't know anything about him. So I clicked, read, had to go back and reread a few things he wrote, and can come to only one conclusion.

In my opinion, this Aslaadawi is a jackass.


Yes, of coarse, it all boil's down to matter's of opinion. Good job for paying attention!
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