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Lostris · Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 4:55 pm Post subject: Akhenaten's mummy

I don't belive it!
I found in Joyce Tyldesley's Egypt's Golden Empire - The Age of The New Kingdom that a priest called A. H. Sayce saw when tomb robbers robbed Akhenaten's tomb, destroyed everything and took away the mummy!!!! Shocked

He wrote it from Luxor in his letters in 1890 in the twenty-sixth of February. (The Academy 933:195)
Is it true? Do you think egyptologysts ever find Akhenaten's mummy? And if yes, do they find it in Amarna or in Thebes? Please vote - I'm really curious.
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the_tutness_is_here · Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject:

What I read--I forgot the name of the book--Was that an eyewitness saw two mummies being burned at the ruined city of Akhetaten. O_O; Dunno if it's true, though...But everyone was guessing it was Akhenaten and Nefertiti...but yet, in the Discovery channel's "Nefertiti Resurrected", they claimed to have found her mummy. Really, as for Akhenaten's mummy, they either moved it or burned it, sadly enough. Sad

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Osiris II · Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 2:46 am Post subject:

I really doubt if it was burned in 1890. From the condition in which the Royal Tomb at Aketaten was found, I would say that the mummy was probably distroyed when the tomb was first violated and "trashed".
Starting in the 19th Dynasty, he was considered to be The Heretic of Aketaten and was systematically removed for existance--his name was taken from lists of kings, his temple in Karnak was distroyed, and his tomb was violated and abused. This is when his mummy would have been burned, with the objective of cancelling his after-life.

maatkara · Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 11:21 am Post subject:

...yes, once I saw on a site which is showing all the mummies of pharaohs, also a skull which was supposed to be that of Amenhotep IV Akhenaton....I cannot really imagine how could they find proof of their hypotesys..... Shocked

they were also showing the mummy that is supposed to be that of Hatshepsut...which is still lying on the florr of KV 60, (?)....who knows? Rolling Eyes

Lostris · Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 11:45 am Post subject:

Joyce Tyledsley wrote they found Hatshepsut's mummy - an old, red-haired woman. And she didn't have teeth. It was so... illusion-destroyer...
In my opinion, I think the family of Akhenaten didn't took the pharaoh's mummy into the Valley of the Kings. I think they brought it to an unknown place. But maybe A. H. Sayce had right. But I'd be sad... Sad

I always wanted to see my favourite pharaoh's mummy...
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maatkara · Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 11:57 am Post subject:

yeah, I read Tyldesley's book and that of Desroches-Noblecourt....final thing is that mummy can possibly be that of Maatkara, but, once again, we have nothing which can prove it for sure...so mummy is still lying on the floor of that tomb....

Lostris · Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 12:05 pm Post subject:

Sounds so interesting and misterious. Wink

But, will we ever know exactly who are the mummies? Maybe modern science will do it, but I never will be sure. Yes, we have a lot of proofs, but... That's why I like ancient Egypt. So misterious... Wink

We don't know anything exactly...
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maatkara · Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 12:14 pm Post subject:

...I do think like you...I only wonder why they didn't want to make DNA test...in my opinion the fact that it is an invasive test is just an excuse....when Hawass wanted to prove that Joan Fletcher was saying foolishness about the hipothesys of the mummy of Nefertiti, he didn't hesitate to make the test on that mummy to prove that that was a Male and not Female....why didn't he do that on Tut?....what I think is that this way he's gonna have something to say in his "dark" period, when nothing will come out, he'll have some new scoop to declare to the international press, he will have some new and fresh money from National Geographic or Discovery Channel, or whatever TV channel who will be ready to pay him some more money...what do you think about that? Rolling Eyes

Lostris · Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 12:37 pm Post subject:

Sorry for answering late, I had to use my dictionary... so much... Wink

Joan Fletcher?... umm... the "Nefertiti Resurrected"? I saw that show, it gave me food for thougt. There are so many shows on Discovery and NG like 'Who murdered King Tut?' and so on when they try to prove who killed the king, and the end of the show an agent tell you it was Horemheb. Some weeks ago, I heard in the news: no-one killed Tut. He had an accident... so, that's about shows... What about Hawass' 'dark period'? Sorry, but I haven't heard about it. He wanted only money??? Shocked

Huh... Anyway, I don't understand why he didn't make that test. It would be an answer for a lot of questions. 'Dark period?' Oh my god... I thought Hawass is a clever, quick-witted egyptologist and opened for the new things... Correct me, if I said something wrong...
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maatkara · Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 3:31 pm Post subject:

I meant "dark period" as to say a period during which he is not earning money from TV channels!! Laughing

I'm sorry, that's similar to an italian expression "periodo buio".....eheheh...I didn't mean anything else! Wink

about the DNA test:
-Hawass says they didn't do it on King Tut because it is an invasive test ( to do it, they have to prelevate a small portion of tissue) and they firmly believe that they should not disturb his mummy anymore.... Rolling Eyes

-Hawass didn't feel the same when he was about to have the same test on the mummy of the "unknown", on which doc Fletcher was proposing her new..."theory"...
I say: what about the disturbance to the mummy? does it work only for King Tut? Or does Mr Hawass want to keep some more secrets in order to sell TV rights to the TVs when he will be facing his "dark period"? Rolling Eyes

That was my question....sorry for my english, sometimes it gets complicated to explain clearly! Wink

the_tutness_is_here · Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 5:28 pm Post subject:

You know...I'm starting to see a pattern when it comes to Tut's mummy. They take it out every 40 years. It was discovered in the 1920's, taken out for X-rays in the 1960's, then examined in a CT scan by Hawass and his team just this year. Shocked

I wonder...what is it with Tut and the number 40? Or is it all a big coincidence? Very Happy

Very interesting...
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Unas · Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 5:47 pm Post subject:

Hey, that is quite a coincidence! I really have no idea, myself!
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the_tutness_is_here · Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject:

And as many of you can see, I'm extremely bored to note this, but I just had to get it off my chest. Yeah, Unas, it is a strange coincidence, and I wonder if this can mean something. Either that, or it's just my own little concept that everything happens for a reason! ^_^
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maatkara · Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject:

uhm...just to break your....dreams: xray has been taken in 68 and 78....it's not 40 at all! Laughing

the_tutness_is_here · Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject:

O_O; Maatkara, you just refreshed my memory...thanks for the pattern break, lol Laughing

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