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Did the artifacts in King Tut's Tomb belong to some one else
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Neb-Ma'at-Re
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luap,

Just to put these time frames into perspective, The pyramids in Giza were built around 2600 b.c. in the 4th Dynasty. Tutankhamun lived his short life in the 18th Dynasty bewteen 1400-1300 bc.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know the really famous throne from the tomb, depicting Ankhesenamun anointing her husband with oils. Behind them both is a depiction of the aten beaming rays down upon the couple, each hand ending in an ankh. By the time of his death the worship of Amun had been re-established for years so why a depiction of the Aten, perhaps re-use from another tomb? Like the sarcophagus of Akhenaten the stone sarcophagus of Tutankhamun originally had four women standing around the corners, these were later modified to become winged goddesses. Many of the objects show signs of alteration and many think that in the 70 days needed for mummification the tombs of Akhenaten, Smenkhare, Nefertiti and Tiy were opened and their goods used to fill the tomb of the Pharaoh who died so unexpectedly. Could you create all that funery equipment in just over two months? Tutankhamun would have been expected to live at least another twenty years, the tomb is even suspected of being a "spare" one in the Valley, explaining its size and lack of much decoration. I read that the Tomb of Ay was originally intended for Tutankhamun but he died before it was in a suitable condition for a burial. Ay carried on with the tomb and buried himself in it instead. Anyone heard any other interesting ideas?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Si-amun wrote:
You know the really famous throne from the tomb, depicting Ankhesenamun anointing her husband with oils. Behind them both is a depiction of the aten beaming rays down upon the couple, each hand ending in an ankh. By the time of his death the worship of Amun had been re-established for years so why a depiction of the Aten, perhaps re-use from another tomb? Like the sarcophagus of Akhenaten the stone sarcophagus of Tutankhamun originally had four women standing around the corners, these were later modified to become winged goddesses. Many of the objects show signs of alteration and many think that in the 70 days needed for mummification the tombs of Akhenaten, Smenkhare, Nefertiti and Tiy were opened and their goods used to fill the tomb of the Pharaoh who died so unexpectedly. Could you create all that funery equipment in just over two months? Tutankhamun would have been expected to live at least another twenty years, the tomb is even suspected of being a "spare" one in the Valley, explaining its size and lack of much decoration. I read that the Tomb of Ay was originally intended for Tutankhamun but he died before it was in a suitable condition for a burial. Ay carried on with the tomb and buried himself in it instead. Anyone heard any other interesting ideas?


Thats an interesting theory!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, i saw a program off Nicolas Reeves at National geographic, and i think thats the show ur talking about?? Laughing

he was talking about the artefacts in the tombe, and that they werent originally meant for Tut, but since he died so young and unexpected, they just grabbed some artefacts from his father's city, and put those in Tut's tombe. in fact, it seems that even the gold mask wasnt made for him originally, but was made for his father, Achnaton !!! Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought they created the masks to look like the deceased? So if it was made for Akhenaten then why does it look more like Tut?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you know it looks like Tutankhamun? Look at the recretions of his face and you will see it doesn't look like him at all. Another theory is that the actual face was added for Tutankhamun but the actual headdress itself was from an earlier burial. There are so many theories about the artifacts that it is impossible to write them all down in a post.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WELL, AS rEEVAS WAS TELLING IN THAT PROGRAM, THE FACE OFF ACHNATON WAS REMOVED, AND THE FACE OFF TUTACHAMUN WAS PUT IN ITS PLACE Wink
IT SEEMS THAT THERE ARE WELDINGS AT THE BACK OFF THE MASK THAT PROVE THAT Very Happy


THIS IS A REMAKE OFF HIS FACE, MADE BY AN AMERICAN SCIENTOLOGIST Wink


so i think that the mask does look like him Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whowwww Shocked
i got the book from nicholas reeves yesterday, to bad the pic isnt in the book Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

please keep in mind, this computer generated face of Tutankhamun, although constructed from cranial measurements, is an artists interpretation of what his face might look like, as was the golden mask.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neb-Ma'at-Re,

i know its only an interpretation off what he MIGHT have looked like, but we will never know iff that picture is correct, so i think it's awsome to have atleast a general idea , don't u think?? Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

man, science has come so far, we have a course at school all about recontrusting the past through sciene, although i didnt take it since it didnt have much historical content
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats why the sarchophagus of Tutankhamen does not look like he did in real life Smile
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