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The Meaning of the Red Rope Belt

 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:03 am    Post subject: The Meaning of the Red Rope Belt Reply with quote

Does anyone know about the symbolic character of the red rope/belt? Question
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bel
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 4:57 am    Post subject: Is this an oriental question Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bel I think he is refering to Nefertiti in particular



I have no idea what the red belt means??????
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bel
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:50 am    Post subject: I got it, Reply with quote

but hey, thank's!
that which is above
is like that which is below.
Eternal Nefertari.
http://www.swarthmore.edu/Humanities/pschmid1/essays/Nefertari/first.chamber.html
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:51 am    Post subject: Very beautiful picture's! Reply with quote

Neb-Ma'at-Re wrote:
bel I think he is refering to Nefertiti in particular



I have no idea what the red belt means??????


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maatkara
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uhmm....I read once it that only the queens was wearing it, referring to her particular title (which I don't know which one) and that it was somehow connect to Isis....but honestly I don't know if it is correct or not...I'll ask in the italian site and see what they tell me.... Wink
I'll be back soon...
cia'
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:40 am    Post subject: Tiet Reply with quote

The exact origin of this symbol is unknown. In many respects it resembles an ankh except that its arms curve down. Its meaning is also reminiscent of the ankh, it is often translated to mean welfare or life. As early as the Third Dynasty we find the tiet being used as decoration when it appears with both the ankh and the djed column, and later with the was scepter. The tiet is associated with Isis and is often called "the knot of Isis" or "the blood of Isis." It seems to be called "the knot of Isis" because it resembles a knot used to secure the garments that the gods wore. The meaning of "the blood of Isis" is more obscured but it was often used as a funerary amulet made of a red stone or glass. In the Late Period the sign was associated with the goddesses Nephthys, Hathor, and Nut as well as with Isis. In all these cases it seems to represent the ideas of resurrection and eternal life.
Could this possibly mean re-incarnation? Why, Jesus himself died, was resurrected and said to again be reborn unto this land one day.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bel- you are describing the well-known knot of Isis or tjet amulet. Not the red-rope belt.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ciao Psus!

...look! it's the title of her post! Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 3:34 pm    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

I realize this; but it occured to me that the symbol of the red rope belt is one of eternity. I have made the sign , under my signature for many year's. I believe the tiet is more closely related that you may think.
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