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Ziggy · Tomb Robber Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 2 Location: London

Does anyone know about the symbolic character of the red rope/belt? Question

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bel · Pharaoh Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 501

Neb-Ma'at-Re · Pharaoh Joined: 09 Dec 2003 Posts: 690

bel I think he is refering to Nefertiti in particular

I have no idea what the red belt means??????
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bel · Pharaoh Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 501

but hey, thank's!
that which is above
is like that which is below.
Eternal Nefertari.
http://www.swarthmore.edu/Humanities/pschmid1/essays/Nefertari/first.chamber.html

bel · Pharaoh Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 501

maatkara · Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:05 am Post subject:

uhmm....I read once it that only the queens was wearing it, referring to her particular title (which I don't know which one) and that it was somehow connect to Isis....but honestly I don't know if it is correct or not...I'll ask in the italian site and see what they tell me.... Wink

I'll be back soon...
cia'

bel · Pharaoh Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 501

The exact origin of this symbol is unknown. In many respects it resembles an ankh except that its arms curve down. Its meaning is also reminiscent of the ankh, it is often translated to mean welfare or life. As early as the Third Dynasty we find the tiet being used as decoration when it appears with both the ankh and the djed column, and later with the was scepter. The tiet is associated with Isis and is often called "the knot of Isis" or "the blood of Isis." It seems to be called "the knot of Isis" because it resembles a knot used to secure the garments that the gods wore. The meaning of "the blood of Isis" is more obscured but it was often used as a funerary amulet made of a red stone or glass. In the Late Period the sign was associated with the goddesses Nephthys, Hathor, and Nut as well as with Isis. In all these cases it seems to represent the ideas of resurrection and eternal life.
Could this possibly mean re-incarnation? Why, Jesus himself died, was resurrected and said to again be reborn unto this land one day.

Psusennes I · Pharaoh Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 913 Location: England

Bel- you are describing the well-known knot of Isis or tjet amulet. Not the red-rope belt.
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maatkara · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:30 pm Post subject:

ciao Psus!

...look! it's the title of her post! Wink

cia'

bel · Pharaoh Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 501

I realize this; but it occured to me that the symbol of the red rope belt is one of eternity. I have made the sign , under my signature for many year's. I believe the tiet is more closely related that you may think.