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Si-amun Pharaoh

Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 947 Location: London, England
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:29 pm Post subject: Tiaa and Sutailja and Siptah |
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Right, this arose in a question in the "Egypt Trivia" thread and I was just wondering. The last male ruler of the 19th dynasty was a disabled chiled, the son of Seti II. What we came across was the question of who his mother was. We came up with three possible names Tausret, his regent and the principle wife of his father, Tiaa who was a secondary wife or Sutailja who was a Syrian concubine. Several sources name the three different women as his mother. The Oxford History of Ancient Egypt states that it was the concubine and this is the person I personally believe to be the mother of the young king but who do you think it was? _________________ Thou dost appear beautiful on the horizon of heaven, oh living Amun, he who was the first to live. |
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Osiris II Pharaoh
Joined: 13 Mar 2004 Posts: 914 Location: Long Beach, CA
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Evidently, Tiaa and Sutailja was two acceptable names fdor the same person.
The Egyptians changed Asiatic names to Egyptian quite often, perhaps as an easier-recognized version, or maybe one a little more easily pronounced--for them. |
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Si-amun Pharaoh

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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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I do understand that but the two seem to have slightly different roles. Whereas one is listed as a concubine under her name Sutailja why would she always be referred to as a wife under the name Tiaa? _________________ Thou dost appear beautiful on the horizon of heaven, oh living Amun, he who was the first to live. |
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Osiris II Pharaoh
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting question--but I don't really know the answer!
Logically, I think perhaps she came into the Royal family as a concubine, won favor with the Pharaoh and became a wife. |
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Si-amun Pharaoh

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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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That is indeed a logical possibility. The whole object of this thread is to discuss different theories that you people have on his parentage. _________________ Thou dost appear beautiful on the horizon of heaven, oh living Amun, he who was the first to live. |
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Sekhmet Pharaoh
Joined: 20 Feb 2004 Posts: 579 Location: Rome, Georgia USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| Si-amun wrote: | | I do understand that but the two seem to have slightly different roles. Whereas one is listed as a concubine under her name Sutailja why would she always be referred to as a wife under the name Tiaa? |
Why would a concubine be elavated to wife? Another reason would be she provided the heir to the throne. _________________ [img]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:ygpdGun0X_wJ:www.temoata.org/temoata/lotus.jpg[/img]
how beautiful the lotus flower is! selected 4-4-04 |
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